Green street.

Got it for tonight so is sit any good?

Yep Jack good film you will enjoy it

Got a original to so it wont be a crappy copy.
Watching it later bout half 8 when i have had a shower and watched first half of footie.
Better than firm aint it?

So young Jack did you enjoy the film

If its the first one it was a good film the second one was shite..

Yea i liked green street compared to football factory

pkt_drfc wrote:Yea i liked green street compared to football factory

was there a green street 2 or am i getting them mixed up with football factory..

Yep there was a green street 2 they was in prison

pkt_drfc wrote:Yep there was a green street 2 they was in prison

That was the one, Shite...is that the one Jack has got...

Nope think he has the first 1 i think even though i thought he said he had seen it

Green Street = Good
Green Street 2 = Shite
Football Factory = ok
The Firm (80's version with gary oldman) = The best hooligan film ever made
The Firm (2009 remake) = ok
Rise of the Footsoldier = Good

Yeah it was good.

Yeah i prefer the firm (older one) to the new version

Just got The other Half, anyone seen it Danny Dyer trying to get to see some euro 04 games while on his honeymoon , looks like it will be a decent watch.

It's shite honest i did not like it

pkt_drfc wrote:It's shite honest i did not like it

Well it only cost £3.00 so i will give it a go over the weekend, probably not your cup of tea pete, no violence..

If you are interesdted in films like this then the best 2 and most realistic imo are these 2.......

The Firm (1988 version with Gary oldman)

What it's about....
The Firm is a 1988 TV film directed by Alan Clarke and written by Al Ashton. The film is based on the activities of the Inter City Firm, football firm of West Ham United during the 1970s and 1980s although in the film the firm's name is changed slightly to become the Inter City Crew (ICC). Rival football fans battle it out on the streets in this powerful television drama starring Gary Oldman as Clive 'Bex' or 'Bexy' Bissel. The film is notable for having almost no musical score or diagetic music, save for Dean Martin's rendition of 'That's Amore' over the opening titles. The film features Phil Davis, Charles Lawson and Steve McFadden in his acting debut.

As with most of Clarke's films, the film was similarly praised and condemned for its depiction of violence. The film is often described as being among the best of the football hooligan genre of films. Its current rating on Internet Movie Database is 7.0 out of 10 with over 1255 votes counted.

The Plot.....
Bexy is a married man with a baby son and it is clear his wife does not approve of his activities as a football hooligan which provide contrast to his respectable job as an estate agent. Even when his baby son injures himself with a Stanley knife carelessly left around by Bexy he is unwilling to give up his interest in violence as he admits it gives him a buzz. Conversely, Bexy's father shows some degree of acceptance of his son's lifestyle and may have been involved in similar activities in his own era. Bexy uses his natural leadership qualities to cajole (sometimes to the extent of intimidating those less eager) and encourage his peers and plays a key role in organising trips to rival firms. He also has a vision of a national firm, which would join all the smaller firms into one. But his ideas are not accepted by other firm leaders.

Bexy and his fellow hooligans clearly only possess any kind of social status amongst their own groups and Bexy obviously relishes being looked up to and admired by the younger lads in his "firm". Bexy and his friends think of themselves as important, respected figures in their local community but Bexy's wife points out to him that the truth is somewhat different. Everyone thinks of him as a bit of a joke figure but because of their fear of his violent nature few are willing to point out to him that he isn't the working class hero he thinks he is.

Towards the end of the film the pointlessness and futility of being involved in football violence is characterised by the main character Bexy being shot dead by Yeti, the leader of "The Buccaneers" one of their rival firms during a violent clash. Despite the senseless killing of a family man with a child, Bexy's followers still regard him as a hero figure and claim that when they are fighting European thugs at a forthcoming tournament they will be doing so in memory of their dead leader. This part of the film shows the hooligans from three different firms, which were fighting each other not long ago. They claim that Bexy is a visionary that brought them together, so Bexy becomes a legend in the eyes of the other hooligans.

My View........
Fantastic film and very realistic apart from the end which is a little far fetched, i could understand it if bex got knifed but being shot seems a little far fetched but it doesn't spoil the movie at all imo.


Rise of the Footsoldier

What it's about.....

Rise of the Footsoldier is a 2007 British crime film released on September 7, 2007. It is the third film from director Julian Gilbey. It is a gangster film based on the true story of the Rettendon murders and the biography of Carlton Leach, a former football hooligan of the infamous West Ham hooligan crew the Inter City Firm (ICF) who became a powerful figure of the British underworld.
The film follows Carlton Leach from his younger days as a 'footsoldier' among the ranks of the ICF to membership of a notorious gang who rampaged their way through London and Essex in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The film focuses on three decades of his life, following him from football hooliganism through his burgeoning career as a nightclub bouncer and his involvement in the criminal aspects of the early 'rave' scene, until finally becoming one of the most feared criminals in the country. The story concludes with three members of his gang - Tony Tucker `38', Craig Rolfe `26' and Pat Tate `37' - being brutally murdered in the infamous Rettendon Murders Range Rover triple murders on December 6th 1995.

My Opinion.....
Great movie as it isn't just focussed on hooliganism, it's very realistic and follows Carlton Leach's life which in a way is similar to a lot of hooligans from that time in the way that the rave scene explosion in the late 80's and early 90's was a major factor of a drop in hooliganism as people found a new "buzz". Granted Leach went further and got involved in dealing and the underworld but a lot of lads from the 80's and 90's will enjoy this film.

SkellowRover wrote:If you are interesdted in films like this then the best 2 and most realistic imo are these 2.......

The Firm (1988 version with Gary oldman)

What it's about....
The Firm is a 1988 TV film directed by Alan Clarke and written by Al Ashton. The film is based on the activities of the Inter City Firm, football firm of West Ham United during the 1970s and 1980s although in the film the firm's name is changed slightly to become the Inter City Crew (ICC). Rival football fans battle it out on the streets in this powerful television drama starring Gary Oldman as Clive 'Bex' or 'Bexy' Bissel. The film is notable for having almost no musical score or diagetic music, save for Dean Martin's rendition of 'That's Amore' over the opening titles. The film features Phil Davis, Charles Lawson and Steve McFadden in his acting debut.

As with most of Clarke's films, the film was similarly praised and condemned for its depiction of violence. The film is often described as being among the best of the football hooligan genre of films. Its current rating on Internet Movie Database is 7.0 out of 10 with over 1255 votes counted.

The Plot.....
Bexy is a married man with a baby son and it is clear his wife does not approve of his activities as a football hooligan which provide contrast to his respectable job as an estate agent. Even when his baby son injures himself with a Stanley knife carelessly left around by Bexy he is unwilling to give up his interest in violence as he admits it gives him a buzz. Conversely, Bexy's father shows some degree of acceptance of his son's lifestyle and may have been involved in similar activities in his own era. Bexy uses his natural leadership qualities to cajole (sometimes to the extent of intimidating those less eager) and encourage his peers and plays a key role in organising trips to rival firms. He also has a vision of a national firm, which would join all the smaller firms into one. But his ideas are not accepted by other firm leaders.

Bexy and his fellow hooligans clearly only possess any kind of social status amongst their own groups and Bexy obviously relishes being looked up to and admired by the younger lads in his "firm". Bexy and his friends think of themselves as important, respected figures in their local community but Bexy's wife points out to him that the truth is somewhat different. Everyone thinks of him as a bit of a joke figure but because of their fear of his violent nature few are willing to point out to him that he isn't the working class hero he thinks he is.

Towards the end of the film the pointlessness and futility of being involved in football violence is characterised by the main character Bexy being shot dead by Yeti, the leader of "The Buccaneers" one of their rival firms during a violent clash. Despite the senseless killing of a family man with a child, Bexy's followers still regard him as a hero figure and claim that when they are fighting European thugs at a forthcoming tournament they will be doing so in memory of their dead leader. This part of the film shows the hooligans from three different firms, which were fighting each other not long ago. They claim that Bexy is a visionary that brought them together, so Bexy becomes a legend in the eyes of the other hooligans.

My View........
Fantastic film and very realistic apart from the end which is a little far fetched, i could understand it if bex got knifed but being shot seems a little far fetched but it doesn't spoil the movie at all imo.


Rise of the Footsoldier

What it's about.....

Rise of the Footsoldier is a 2007 British crime film released on September 7, 2007. It is the third film from director Julian Gilbey. It is a gangster film based on the true story of the Rettendon murders and the biography of Carlton Leach, a former football hooligan of the infamous West Ham hooligan crew the Inter City Firm (ICF) who became a powerful figure of the British underworld.
The film follows Carlton Leach from his younger days as a 'footsoldier' among the ranks of the ICF to membership of a notorious gang who rampaged their way through London and Essex in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The film focuses on three decades of his life, following him from football hooliganism through his burgeoning career as a nightclub bouncer and his involvement in the criminal aspects of the early 'rave' scene, until finally becoming one of the most feared criminals in the country. The story concludes with three members of his gang - Tony Tucker `38', Craig Rolfe `26' and Pat Tate `37' - being brutally murdered in the infamous Rettendon Murders Range Rover triple murders on December 6th 1995.

My Opinion.....
Great movie as it isn't just focussed on hooliganism, it's very realistic and follows Carlton Leach's life which in a way is similar to a lot of hooligans from that time in the way that the rave scene explosion in the late 80's and early 90's was a major factor of a drop in hooliganism as people found a new "buzz". Granted Leach went further and got involved in dealing and the underworld but a lot of lads from the 80's and 90's will enjoy this film.

Thanks for that Skellow, will have a look on Amazon, always looking out for Bargain DVD's..

yorkie64red wrote:Just got The other Half, anyone seen it Danny Dyer trying to get to see some euro 04 games while on his honeymoon , looks like it will be a decent watch.

You were right Pete, just watching it now and it is shite..

Yep i turned it of after 30mins

pkt_drfc wrote:Yep i turned it of after 30mins

Oh no its shite but i paid for it, got to watch it to the end there might be one good bit in it....

So Bri did you manage to watch the film all the through

pkt_drfc wrote:So Bri did you manage to watch the film all the through

yes i did, it got better as it went on to be honest, still don't know why they had the 2 guys with Microphones following them about though that spoilt it, it could have been a really good film but as is often the way these days when making films they balls it up with stupid filming techniques if you know what i mean..

So out of 10 you would give it

pkt_drfc wrote:So out of 10 you would give it

4 , don't think i would be too much in a rush to watch it again although as i say it did get a bit better as it went on, but if you fancy giving it another go you know where you can get a copy...