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Post by NIGHTMARE Sat 10 Jul - 4:51:36

Trooper James Leverett of Royal Dragoon Guards killed in Helmand 07 July 2010
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Trooper James Leverett
The Ministry of Defence confirms that Trooper James Anthony Leverett of D (The Green Horse) Squadron, The Viking Group, The Royal Dragoon Guards, was killed in Afghanistan on Monday 5 July 2010.

Trooper Leverett was killed in an explosion when his Viking armoured vehicle was struck by an improvised explosive device in the Nahr-e Saraj district of Helmand province.

The incident occurred while Trooper Leverett and his troop were providing security for the building of Route Trident in support of the 1st Battalion The Royal Gurkha Rifles Battle Group.

The route is crucial as it links the provincial capital, Lashkar Gah, with the economic hub of Gereshk. Once completed, it will allow local Afghans to travel and trade more freely and securely, boosting development and prosperity.

Trooper James Anthony Leverett

Trooper James Anthony Leverett, 'Lev' or 'Levy' to his mates, was 20 years old. He was born in Great Yarmouth and grew up in Sheffield and Rotherham. Having worked as a plasterer's labourer after leaving school, he joined the Army at 18 in May 2008, attending the Army Training Regiment, Winchester.

On completion of his time at Winchester, he attended the Armour Centre in Dorset where he qualified as a Challenger 2 tank driver. He joined D (The Green Horse) Squadron, The Royal Dragoon Guards, in January 2009.

Tpr Leverett deployed on Exercise Medicine Man 2 in 2009 with D (The Green Horse) Squadron. On return from a successful exercise in Canada, he was selected as a member of the Viking Group for Op HERRICK 12.

He completed Mission Specific Training for HERRICK 12, qualifying as a Viking crewman with 1st Troop. He deployed to Afghanistan in early June 2010.

Tpr Leverett leaves behind his parents, Neville and Sharon, his three brothers, Neville, Lewis and Jack, and his girlfriend, Tiffany, who is due to give birth to their first child in September.

"James was strong-minded and determined. Whatever he set his mind to, he kept on trying until he achieved his goal. He was very likeable and had many friends in and out of the Army."
Family and friends of Trooper Leverett


The family and friends of Trooper Leverett have made the following statement:

"James was strong-minded and determined. Whatever he set his mind to, he kept on trying until he achieved his goal. He was very likeable and had many friends in and out of the Army.

"He was a loving son to mum Sharon, father Neville and stepdad Tony, and loyal brother to Neville, Lewis, Jack and stepbrother Shane, and being the oldest brother was someone that they looked up to. He was also the adoring boyfriend of Tiffany and proudly looking forward to the birth of his son.

"We will miss him so much and he will always be loved and remembered."

Lieutenant Colonel James Carr-Smith, Commanding Officer, The Royal Dragoon Guards, said:

"Trooper James Leverett (known as Levy) was a Royal Dragoon Guard of significant potential. He had only been with the regiment for 18 months but in this short time he had more than made his mark. He was a model soldier.

"Whenever I spent time with D Squadron, Trooper Leverett was always pushed to the front as his Squadron Leader recognised that Levy had all the qualities associated with a modern-day Armoured Corps trooper.

"He was young, bright, robust, fit, brave, intelligent and tremendously popular. He was not afraid to speak his mind, but he always did so in a balanced and measured fashion. However, it was the twinkle in his eye and his quick wit that I will really remember; the fact is that he had more than enough professional attributes to get away with it. He loved the regiment and his fellow soldiers, and he also loved his family very dearly.

"Trooper James Leverett died on operations in southern Nahr-e Saraj, Helmand province. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family, girlfriend and unborn child. He will never be forgotten by his many friends. We will remember him. Quis Separabit."

Major Denis James, Officer Commanding D (The Green Horse) Squadron, The Viking Group, said:

"Trooper James 'Levy' Leverett was one of life's characters. He was great company, had a wicked sense of humour, and was totally suited to life in the regiment. He had been steadfast throughout our intensive training and during operations on the tour, and was an extremely tough and resilient soldier. He was a man of the highest quality and was to be recommended for promotion to Lance Corporal.

"He was a giant of an individual, and excelled at rugby in his youth. However, his focus in life was his girlfriend, Tiffany, and he spoke about her often. He was excited at the prospect of the birth of their first child and had planned his R&R [Rest & Recuperation] around it. He was also close to his mother, Sharon, and loved both of his parents dearly.

"Levy died a soldier, fighting the enemy. He was an incredibly brave man, and his spirit and deeds will inspire this squadron for the remainder of the tour, and the regiment forever. We will mourn him when we return home; our thoughts and prayers are with his family. Trooper James Leverett will always be remembered as his photograph shows him; a strong man, smiling and joking, amongst his friends in 1st Troop. Quis Separabit."

Captain Iain Monk, 1st Troop Leader, D (The Green Horse) Squadron, The Viking Group, said:

"Trooper James Leverett embodied everything that it meant to be a part of 1st Troop. He was kind and caring and had an immense sense of humour that, without fail, would always raise the troop's morale during tough times. His peers looked up to him and he was respected by those above him. He would always check on me, making sure I had thought of everything, and he would always let me know how the lads were doing; he was always looking after people.

"I will miss his infectious smile and the way he would turn down the cigarettes I offered him because they were 'officers' fags', and he would say 'not for me like', the stubborn man that he was.

"He would talk to me about his unborn baby and how he was looking forward to watching his child grow up. He was a friend to all and we will miss him greatly. A massive hole has been left in the troop which will never be filled. Quis Separabit."

Sergeant Scotty Dyer, 1st Troop Sergeant, D (The Green Horse) Squadron, The Viking Group, said:

"I first met Trooper James Leverett when he arrived at the regiment in January 2009. Initially he was a quiet individual but that was not to last! Very quickly he established himself as a key character within our troop. He was every bit a 1st Troop soldier; professional, generous and always willing to help others. He also had an uncanny knack of being able to crack a joke and make people smile, particularly when times were hard.

"I have met many people in my time in the Army, but seldom people with the ability to make fun of you, and for it always to be funny, but that was Lev all over.

"We all have happy memories, from him mocking his Commander's Barnsley accent to the time we went to Catterick Races and he managed to be the only person to back a winner, something he reminded us about for the rest of the day. Our thoughts are with his family and his girlfriend Tiffany who is expecting their first child.

"There is now a void within the Troop which will be hard to fill. We have lost a friend, a comrade and an amazing solider. Quis Separabit."

Lance Corporal Liam Hudyma and Trooper Sacha Hill, 1st Troop, D (The Green Horse) Squadron, The Viking Group, said:

"Lev 'The Slammer' Leverett was the most straight down the line man we knew, but he would always make us smile. He was more than just a bit of a comedian; he was quick-witted and was a 'one phrase wonder', having you in stitches for hours. He was cheeky with all ranks, and could, at a stroke, raise morale; like asking the Squadron Leader to grease his Viking 'because I'm busy and you've being doing nowt'.

"He was always at the centre of the banter and good craic. At the same time, he was a man with an ear for problems. He was so easy to talk to that, when we were down, we would go to Levy for morale, and he would have us cheered up in seconds.

"He loved to wrestle and slam folk into the floor, no matter how big they were, and he enjoyed playing football with the lads, even with his tree-trunk legs. But it was on FIFA Football that he saw himself as a real sporting legend.

"His family was his life, and his most treasured possession was his photo album from home. He was from a big but close family and loved to talk to his troop about becoming a dad. He loved his girlfriend Tiffany. He was a key figure in 1st Troop of D (The Green Horse) Squadron, and he was proud to be a Royal Dragoon Guard. Quis Separabit."

Trooper Kieran Collinson, 1st Troop, D (The Green Horse) Squadron, The Viking Group, said:

"No matter how much you annoyed Levy he was always good to you. He had a love for using his thunderous thighs to body slam people to the ground. He had an infectious smile which always cheered me up. He was good at taking the mickey out of people and no matter how far he went it was always funny.

"He was a kind and caring person who looked after his own and would always help those in trouble. Friends come and go but Levy was more than just a friend. He is leaving Tiffany, who is pregnant with a baby. We will make sure that his child knows he was a hero.

"Wherever he was, he always had his friends around him and you knew something was about to happen, like the night before his death managing to buy a melon on 'tick' from the Afghan National Army, and then proceeded to chase me around the tank park trying to smash it over my head. I like to think that he is looking down now laughing at the fact that he never even paid for it! Levy you will be deeply missed. Quis Separabit."

Secretary of State for Defence, Dr Liam Fox, said:

"Trooper James Anthony Leverett was immensely popular with his comrades in the Royal Dragoon Guards, being counted upon as a dependable source of morale as well as for his exceptional soldiering skills. He died bringing stability to an area crucial to our success in Afghanistan, and ultimately protecting the national security of our country.

"I extend my deepest condolences to his family and friends, and my thoughts remain with them at this sad time."

Due to this a lot of people around our way have been talking about the war and saying its about time we pulled out of the hell hole
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Post by pkt_drfc Sat 10 Jul - 18:16:43

Ok i have slept on this as yesterday i had a drink so did not want to reply. My feelings about the war are very strong there used to be posters on this board what cared more about the afgans out there then our own troops which makes me sick. People will argue it is there job so be it they have signed up for it a date has been set for 2014 to pull out but in my view we should pull out alot sooner or the death toll will be in the 1000's as said i have stronger feelings then most on here is because i have mates out there and some has just come back the things you here what goes on out there what does not get reported by the media is disgusting like there was an 18 year old that was killed and that lad had only passed out 2 week earlier and was in Afgan 24hrs and he was dead but i will keep it quiet what i have been told
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Post by yorkie64red Sat 10 Jul - 22:11:56

I feel for the Soldiers and like pete says they have no choice but to go if we didn't have a volunteer army then we would have conscription its as clear as that , as for the war itself i believe unlike Iraq that it is a war that needs to be fought, the terrorists that are triained in that country mainly from places like pakistan has to be stopped, if we pulled out now someone else would have to take there place and we can hardly relie on the french to do that , we have always been a military nation involving ourselfs in conflicts its been like that for Hundreds of years and it won't change, we either finish the job now for however long it takes or we pull out and will have to start all over again in a couple of years time, look at iraq.
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Post by ste303 Sat 10 Jul - 23:56:17

yorkie64red wrote:I feel for the Soldiers and like pete says they have no choice but to go if we didn't have a volunteer army then we would have conscription its as clear as that , as for the war itself i believe unlike Iraq that it is a war that needs to be fought, the terrorists that are triained in that country mainly from places like pakistan has to be stopped, if we pulled out now someone else would have to take there place and we can hardly relie on the french to do that , we have always been a military nation involving ourselfs in conflicts its been like that for Hundreds of years and it won't change, we either finish the job now for however long it takes or we pull out and will have to start all over again in a couple of years time, look at iraq.

well said, my sentiments exactly!
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Post by hoolahoop Sun 11 Jul - 5:05:28

I too agree, as much as it saddens me to see any of these lads die. This is a war zone that has to be 'tidied up' in the interests of the safety of all Westerners and indeed those peacekeeping ordinary Muslims and other religous groups that get hounded or killed at the hands of these merciless people.
I too have mates that have done tours of duty, which worries me when they have to enter this mess. It's high time that other nations became fully involved to squeeze the life out of the Taliban and the drug barons who feed off the proceeds of the poppy crops to both arm themselves and to assist with the destruction of our youth.
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Post by Irish Contingent Wed 21 Jul - 1:55:12

I want troops out, out NOW!. If you think that the "War" in Afghanistan is about defeating "Terrorism" and "Drug manufacture", think again. Its a ploy by our "Special Friends" over the Atlantic to get a hold in the country , enabling its wealth of mineral resources to be accessed. Same as every war the USA have waged in last 20 years.
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Post by ste303 Wed 21 Jul - 2:07:08

Irish Contingent wrote:I want troops out, out NOW!. If you think that the "War" in Afghanistan is about defeating "Terrorism" and "Drug manufacture", think again. Its a ploy by our "Special Friends" over the Atlantic to get a hold in the country , enabling its wealth of mineral resources to be accessed. Same as every war the USA have waged in last 20 years.

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Post by Irish Contingent Wed 21 Jul - 3:17:22

So, judging by your respose i take it you disagree, nay ridicule my statement. Well, heres one for you, there are at least 2 North African Countries who everyone knows train Terrorists, why is the USA / Alliance not in there waging war. Simply because those countries have a well developed "natural resources" system. There are other countries equally guilty of manufacture and supply of drugs, some much nearer to US soil, why are they not being bombed, Too close to home thats why, and perchance they have no Oil/Gas/ Iron Ore/ natural resources that the US can tap into.
Gulf war essentially about Oil, never mind ridding world and Iraq of Saddam, that could have easily been done with much less loss of life and ballyhoo. That war served a useful purpose in as much as after hostilities Iraq required major infrastructure rebuild. Who got most of the work , Haliburton, where are they based , Houston, Texas, who was once Govenor of Texas and on the Board at Haliburton, Yes you guessed, G.W.Bush.
Im afraid the USA only goes to war with self interest in mind these days, not for world peace, not for good of mankind. just self preservation.
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Post by ste303 Wed 21 Jul - 14:10:21

well if your theory is right, I guess that the UK should expect b2 bombers anytime now, wasn't Richard Reid a terrorist, oh and the 21 people arrested in connection with the airlines terror plot........ the UK has oil and gas reserves........

yikes, closer to home, Canada had the air India bombers in 1985, are the largest marijuana growers in North America and we have the oil sands, and most of southern AB, and BC have oil reserves........ get me a shovel, i'm digging a bunker......... just hope i don't hit some gold reserves on the way down though as them pesky Halliburton reps will be here in a flash..... good job too as i worked for a subsiduary of Halliburton when i came to Canada......... pesky Yanks, pesky oil companies making the average man able to afford comfortable lifestyles............. if only the dolphin blood powered car had taken off as expected then they wouldn't of had to manufacture the economic collapse...................

grab your protest sign, burn police cars and smash some shop windows to protest against the cost of policing the G20 summit ya baffoon, the money you will save on buying soap and shampoo can go towards your defense at the high court...........

I live in hippy central in the middle of "dodge the Vietnam war" BC, the loons even think the US are putting lead in the water to poison the population so they can take all the water once all the reserves are run dry........... no actually the mining corps put the lead in the water in the 1920's, you know, the ones your grand fathers worked for starchild, and paid for your respectable BMW driving parents to go to University so you could watch Fahrenheit 911 and JFK and take it as Gospel.

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Post by Irish Contingent Wed 21 Jul - 18:37:56

I take your points in reverse order.
Couldnt care less if moon landings faked or not, has no effect on me whatsoever.

Didn't watch Fahrenheit 911, or JFK so couldnt possibly have an opinion on those.

Know nothing about poisoning water supply, never heard of that one.

Not into protesting.

Reserves of oil etc in Canada, i assume its well managed and economically sound, therefore US "Help"is not required there.

Air India / Canada , what did that have to do with USA and their war on "Terrorism", nothing, and that was an age ago, and again the drug "growing" in Canada, its marajuana for pity sake, ok one small step along the road, but not exactly "top of the list" is it.

Richard Reid .....Yeah, trained in his Ideology by which country eactly, UK /Afghanistan / Pakistan/ Libya / Algeria / Yemen.

UK oil and Gas reserves running out ...... and fast, but again the industry has not needed US "Help" in UK, Hell Ireland has larger gas fields now, and the US influence here is greater than in UK anyway.

So, back to my original statement, the Afgan war, the Gulf war, not about terrorism or drugs, natural resources is what it was about, and no amount of posturing by you, or calling me a baffoon will change that opinion.
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Post by pkt_drfc Wed 21 Jul - 18:47:18

My Dad always said to me 3 things never argue about and they are:-

WAR

RELIGION

POLITICS

Because no matter your own feeling there will be always somebody that has a different view point.
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Post by yorkie64red Wed 21 Jul - 20:05:31

pkt_drfc wrote:My Dad always said to me 3 things never argue about and they are:-

WAR

RELIGION

POLITICS

Because no matter your own feeling there will be always somebody that has a different view point.



Very true...especially if your in a pub...oh and add football to that list as well... Smile
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Post by ste303 Wed 21 Jul - 22:43:37

Football? I think you mean Soccer....... Basketball



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Post by pkt_drfc Wed 21 Jul - 23:05:05

ste303 wrote:Football? I think you mean Soccer....... Basketball





Don't start that 1 it's FOOTBALL. Bloody YANKS Laughing
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Post by diggerman Thu 22 Jul - 3:15:55

Irish Contingent wrote:So, judging by your respose i take it you disagree, nay ridicule my statement. Well, heres one for you, there are at least 2 North African Countries who everyone knows train Terrorists, why is the USA / Alliance not in there waging war. Simply because those countries have a well developed "natural resources" system. There are other countries equally guilty of manufacture and supply of drugs, some much nearer to US soil, why are they not being bombed, Too close to home thats why, and perchance they have no Oil/Gas/ Iron Ore/ natural resources that the US can tap into.
Gulf war essentially about Oil, never mind ridding world and Iraq of Saddam, that could have easily been done with much less loss of life and ballyhoo. That war served a useful purpose in as much as after hostilities Iraq required major infrastructure rebuild. Who got most of the work , Haliburton, where are they based , Houston, Texas, who was once Govenor of Texas and on the Board at Haliburton, Yes you guessed, G.W.Bush.
Im afraid the USA only goes to war with self interest in mind these days, not for world peace, not for good of mankind. just self preservation.

Thats the way of the world i'm afraid.
You slag the yanks off , but in fairness , all countries are the same - including Britain.
Even the falklands war was a vote catcher by the Tories.

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Post by Irish Contingent Thu 22 Jul - 3:45:32

I agree with you. There is oil off shore in Falklands, so UK was on self preservation there.
War is always a good way for governments to increase spending, so i guess an economical boost to the protagonist countries.

Oh, i wasn't particularly "Slagging" the yanks off, just saying what i feel, as i have above here.
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Post by diggerman Thu 22 Jul - 3:51:13

ok mate
soz bout my choice of words Smile
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