BNP / Question Time

yorkie64red wrote:What do people think about Nick Griffin the leader of the BNP been allowed to take part on Question time on thursday night, regardless of what the establishment may think i don't agree in trying to get him banned, if we are a free country we should not be afraid of debate and it is upto the people to make their own minds up, i think we are all intelligent enough to do that.





http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/27/straw-debate-bnp-griffin-question-time

hoolahoop wrote:

yorkie64red wrote:What do people think about Nick Griffin the leader of the BNP been allowed to take part on Question time on thursday night, regardless of what the establishment may think i don't agree in trying to get him banned, if we are a free country we should not be afraid of debate and it is upto the people to make their own minds up, i think we are all intelligent enough to do that.





http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/27/straw-debate-bnp-griffin-question-time

Freedom of speech etc. let's see the fool either paint himself 'whiter than white' or be seen in his true colours , either way he and they will look like fools. I'm looking forward to it personally.

yorkie64red wrote:Its surprising just how many people seem to support the BNP, i think what is happening is that people have serious concerns and nobody seems to want to listen as in the mainstream parties, the only option people then have is to look elsewhere, if they do eventually get a foothold in British Politics then the labour Liberals and Tories will only have themselves to blame.

hoolahoop wrote:

yorkie64red wrote:Its surprising just how many people seem to support the BNP, i think what is happening is that people have serious concerns and nobody seems to want to listen as in the mainstream parties, the only option people then have is to look elsewhere, if they do eventually get a foothold in British Politics then the labour Liberals and Tories will only have themselves to blame.

Disagree the only people to blame are the Education gurus who refuse to teach Politics in our schools as they do on the continent. politics is not the X Factor! Shite just had an image of those twatting twins flash across my mind.

hoolahoop wrote:Disagree the only people to blame are the Education gurus who refuse to teach Politics in our schools as they do on the continent. politics is not the X Factor! Shite just had an image of those twatting twins flash across my mind.

The Wednesday wrote:

hoolahoop wrote:Disagree the only people to blame are the Education gurus who refuse to teach Politics in our schools as they do on the continent. politics is not the X Factor! Shite just had an image of those twatting twins flash across my mind.

I wish politics was taught in schools. They taught us about the structure of the government, and the process of introducing new laws (ridiculously boring), but nothing about the actual parties involved. Besides the basics, I'm clueless about what each party stands for. This is why so many people don't vote, they don't know who they're voting for

The Wednesday wrote:I've set this up on Sky+

Should be interesting, I know i've said I know nothing about individual parties, but I did have a good look on their website after they won the european seats thingy. I seem to remember politely saying 'bloody idiots' a lot whilst reading.

yorkie64red wrote:Anybody watching it.

The Wednesday wrote:

yorkie64red wrote:Anybody watching it.

Will do tomorrow. You?

Got it on now, not a supporter, but it does seem a hand picked audience to do him down.

Dan_the_Owl wrote:

Got it on now, not a supporter, but it does seem a hand picked audience to do him down.

I don't think you'd have to handpick an audience to achieve that, particularly amongst people with an interest in politics and current affairs, and who'd want to attend Question Time in the first place. Nick Griffin is a dangerous extremist, and that should be apparent to most people.

Griffin got a couple of his points across, he was certainly in his element on Islam and the war in Iraq (making points that would be considered moderate in the current climate), but he spent most of the hour denying quotes attributed to him, and ducking or laughing off the toughest questions. It's all irrelevant though as far as I'm concerned, the supporter base that the BNP currently have was never going to be affected by this appearance, the invite to appear was itself the triumph as far as they were concerned.

yorkie64red wrote:

Dan_the_Owl wrote:

Got it on now, not a supporter, but it does seem a hand picked audience to do him down.

I don't think you'd have to handpick an audience to achieve that, particularly amongst people with an interest in politics and current affairs, and who'd want to attend Question Time in the first place. Nick Griffin is a dangerous extremist, and that should be apparent to most people.

Griffin got a couple of his points across, he was certainly in his element on Islam and the war in Iraq (making points that would be considered moderate in the current climate), but he spent most of the hour denying quotes attributed to him, and ducking or laughing off the toughest questions. It's all irrelevant though as far as I'm concerned, the supporter base that the BNP currently have was never going to be affected by this appearance, the invite to appear was itself the triumph as far as they were concerned.

I got the impression it was a 'bull baiting' charade and has only served to help their cause more IMO. The usual Question Time format was thrown to one side and then the battle commenced. He struck me as a very dangerous fool and his immaturity as a debating politician made him all the more foolish. In summary
I'm not sure whether it was an 'own goal' or damn good advertising for the BNP..........I'm flummoxed.





I was surprised at work today just how many people thought he was ganged up against and that the audience were not representative of the British poulation, many are not BNP voters and although agreeing he is a nutter many do agree with his message on Islam.